Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/20/2001 03:38 PM House MLV

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SJR 10 - US COAST GUARD FUNDING                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0026                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  announced the  first  item  of business,  SENATE                                                               
JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 10,  Urging the  United States  Congress to                                                               
fully  fund   the  operational  readiness   and  recapitalization                                                               
requirements of the United States Coast Guard.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0125                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SEAN  RILEY,  Staff  to  Senator  Alan  Austerman,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  came forward  to present  SJR 10  on behalf  of the                                                               
sponsor.  He  referred briefly to the  written sponsor statement,                                                               
then  told members  it seems  the perfect  time to  send a  clear                                                               
message  to  Washington,  D.C., that  Alaskans  have  a  critical                                                               
relationship  with the  U.S. Coast  Guard.   Mr. Riley  suggested                                                               
that  if Alaskans  fully support  funding the  U.S. Coast  Guard,                                                               
"Washington, D.C.,  will listen"  because the country  depends on                                                               
Alaska, which has unique geography and rich resources.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RILEY  reported that  the U.S.  Coast Guard  is facing  a $91                                                               
million deficit,  "reducing its  air and sea  patrols by  over 10                                                               
percent."   It  is running  in  the red  because of  higher-than-                                                               
expected energy  costs and higher  pay; its workhorse,  the C-130                                                               
aircraft  that  operate out  of  Kodiak,  will  soon begin  a  33                                                               
percent  reduction  in flight  hours.    Furthermore, U.S.  Coast                                                               
Guard patrols  have already  spent 3,000 fewer  hours in  the air                                                               
and close to 5,000 fewer hours at sea.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RILEY  informed members that  the U.S. subcommittee  chair of                                                               
the Department of  Transportation has said that  lack of adequate                                                               
resources has  seriously weakened the U.S.  Coast Guard's ability                                                               
"to defend  our borders and  to patrol our waterways  from harm."                                                               
Furthermore,  Rear  Admiral  [Thomas  J.] Barrett  has  said  his                                                               
budget is being  squeezed so tightly that missions  are having to                                                               
be delayed.  Mr. Riley  emphasized that [if legislators] unite in                                                               
one  voice to  Washington,  D.C.,  there will  be  a much  better                                                               
opportunity for  the U.S. Coast Guard  to be funded.   He pointed                                                               
out that being a resolution, SJR 10 has no fiscal note.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0377                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  expressed 100  percent support  for the                                                               
U.S. Coast Guard, including "more  than adequate funding and full                                                               
funding."    However,  "full funding"  is  subject  to  different                                                               
interpretations.   She  referred to  [page 2,  beginning at  line                                                               
27], where  it read "fully  fund the United States  Coast Guard's                                                               
operational  readiness and  recapitalization requirements".   She                                                               
asked whether there is a more direct way to say that.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.   RILEY  asked   whether  Representative   Murkowski  had   a                                                               
recommendation regarding that language.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI  said  no,   clarifying  that  she  was                                                               
wondering whether  the meaning of  full funding was  discussed in                                                               
the [Senate].                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RILEY offered to get back to her with an answer.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  specified that she didn't  wish to hold                                                               
up  the resolution  [in order  to address  the meaning  of "fully                                                               
fund"].                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0548                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAYES  asked  whether   this  is  a  supplemental                                                               
request or is a request for FY02 funding.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RILEY  answered, "This  is supplemental.   Initially,  it was                                                               
not accepted, and now we're going  to be going through the second                                                               
rounds and having another opportunity."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAYES asked why, if  this is for full supplemental                                                               
funding  in order  to make  it through  this year's  budget, that                                                               
isn't stated in  the resolution; it sounds [in SJR  10] as if the                                                               
request is for the next year's monies.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RILEY  said he believed  Representative Hayes to  be correct.                                                               
He  asked  whether  Representative  Hayes  had  a  suggestion  to                                                               
clarify that language.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAYES  answered that he  would think about  it and                                                               
come up with something.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0703                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI  concurred with  Representative  Hayes,                                                               
noting that it  reads [beginning on page 2, line  28] "fully fund                                                               
the ...  operational readiness and  recapitalization requirements                                                               
to ensure that  this ... remains 'semper  paratus' throughout the                                                               
Twenty-First Century."   She commented that it is  a pretty broad                                                               
statement, with which Alaskans probably  would agree.  She asked,                                                               
however, whether  it is  the message the  sponsor wants  to send.                                                               
Or is the  request more direct, to address  the immediate problem                                                               
with the federal budget?                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RILEY responded that he  didn't have a problem with rewriting                                                               
it to be more specific, but  he believed it was a figurative, not                                                               
literal, intent, in order to strengthen [the resolution].                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0796                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT remarked  that he  agreed with  the previous                                                               
speakers.     He  said  he   would  be  curious  to   have  "some                                                               
conversation  with  our senior  [U.S.]  Senator,  since he  is  a                                                               
powerful  individual in  Washington,  D.C., that  controls, to  a                                                               
large  extent, what  is appropriated  around the  country; and  I                                                               
know he's a strong supporter of the military."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT asked  whether there  was any  discussion in                                                               
previous committees  with regard  to including  the name  of Rear                                                               
Admiral Barrett  in the list of  people to receive copies  of the                                                               
resolution.  He explained that  he always likes to send something                                                               
to "the  most senior  individual in  the state,  to let  him know                                                               
we're behind him."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RILEY deferred to Mr. Clifford Stone.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0874                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CLIFFORD STONE,  Staff to  Representative Alan  Austerman, Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, came  forward  to  respond to  Representative                                                               
Kott's question.   He  noted that Rear  Admiral Barrett  has been                                                               
kept fully informed, and had,  in fact, given a full presentation                                                               
in the Senate State Affairs  Standing Committee regarding SJR 10.                                                               
He explained the reason for the wording in SJR 10:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     We drafted the  resolution ... in this  form to address                                                                    
     other concerns, ... in kind  of a generic sense, if you                                                                    
     will.   It seemed  to be what  the Coast  Guard wanted,                                                                    
     when  we ran  this past  both Admiral  Barrett and  his                                                                    
     staff.   And  this  was  born out  of  ... the  Pacific                                                                    
     Fisheries  Legislative Task  Force, because  they could                                                                    
     see  ...  the  dollars  drifting away  from  the  Coast                                                                    
     Guard.   And so, the ...  task force came up  with this                                                                    
     generic  language,   which  we  tweaked  ...   [to  be]                                                                    
     specific to Alaska, and  made some recommended changes.                                                                    
     ...                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     This  same resolution,  in essence,  is  going to  come                                                                    
     from  the other  states;  there [are]  about six  other                                                                    
     states in this  task force that are going  to send that                                                                    
     same  resolution back  to  their congressional  leaders                                                                    
     and  the cabinet  members and  the  Vice President,  to                                                                    
     address what  they feel is  a very  serious undermining                                                                    
     of the ...  United States Coast Guard.   We did receive                                                                    
     ... some  input from Admiral  Barrett, and we  did make                                                                    
     those additions in the resolution. ...                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Certainly, it  could ...  be more  specific and  to the                                                                    
     point.   ...   Senator  [Austerman]   would   certainly                                                                    
     entertain ... any language, and  we could work on that.                                                                    
     We could  try and  go back,  both to  our congressional                                                                    
     delegation in  D.C. and to  Admiral Barrett, to  see if                                                                    
     we can't be a little more  specific and if they felt it                                                                    
     would make a  bigger impact back there in D.C.   So, we                                                                    
     could certainly  work on that  before we  requested ...                                                                    
     it go to the floor for a vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1017                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT said he wasn't sure  that he would hold it up                                                               
for that particular purpose, depending  on the timeline involved.                                                               
He suggested that the congressional  delegation members are smart                                                               
enough  to  figure  out  what  [the  legislature]  is  trying  to                                                               
achieve.  He  restated, however, that for  any resolution dealing                                                               
with the State of Alaska, as a  courtesy, a copy should go to the                                                               
highest-ranking military  official in  charge of  that operation.                                                               
As to whether Secretary Principi  [Anthony J. Principi, Secretary                                                               
of  Veterans  Affairs]  should  get   a  copy,  that  is  another                                                               
argument, he added.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE agreed  [regarding Rear  Admiral Barrett]  and stated,                                                               
"We'll  go ahead  and get  that  in there."   He  also said  that                                                               
perhaps  the  commander of  the  Pacific  should be  added  after                                                               
getting that person's full title.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  responded, "Admiral  Blair."   She then                                                               
suggested  that if  this  message  could be  better  used by  the                                                               
congressional delegation if [SJR 10]  were more specific, then it                                                               
would  be worth  asking,  even  by telephone.    If U.S.  Senator                                                               
Stevens  comes  back and  states  that  it  would be  helpful  to                                                               
specify  that  the  legislature supports  full  funding  for  the                                                               
supplemental  for this  budget -  even in  a specific  amount, if                                                               
desired -  that could be  done.  If,  however, he said  it didn't                                                               
make any difference,  SJR 10 could be sent to  [Congress] as soon                                                               
as possible, in order to  be in [Washington, D.C.] in conjunction                                                               
with the other states' [resolutions].   She questioned whether it                                                               
was  desirable or  appropriate procedurally,  however, to  make a                                                               
conceptual amendment  that was  contingent upon  a response  to a                                                               
telephone call.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1283                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  asked Representative Kott,  as chairman                                                               
of  the  House Rules  Standing  Committee,  whether an  amendment                                                               
could  be added  in that  committee to  conform with  the current                                                               
committee, in order to not hold up [SJR 10].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT  said he would  "entertain that option."   At                                                               
that  point,  it could  either  be  amended  in the  House  Rules                                                               
Standing Committee  or a floor  amendment could be prepared.   If                                                               
this current language  is best for what is  being attempted, that                                                               
is fine,  he added, but he  suspects that some language  could be                                                               
used to address the concerns expressed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1351                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  made a  motion to amend  SJR 10  to add                                                               
both  Rear Admiral  Barrett  and  Admiral Blair  to  the list  of                                                               
individuals who will  receive copies.  There  being no objection,                                                               
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1419                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
FRANK KELTY, Resource Analyst, City  of Unalaska, came forward to                                                               
testify  in  support  of  SJR  10.    He  offered  some  personal                                                               
background, noting  that he  had worked 30  years in  the Alaskan                                                               
seafood industry in  the Aleutian Islands, in  Unalaska and Dutch                                                               
Harbor, and was an elected  official [mayor] in the community for                                                               
18 years.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELTY  explained that  the U.S.  Coast Guard's  mission, both                                                               
nationwide and  in Alaska,  is of critical  importance.   When he                                                               
first moved  to the  Aleutians, there were  few resources.   Many                                                               
nights, choppers would leave Kodiak to  come to the middle of the                                                               
Bering Sea to  assist with a rescue, which took  hours.  He noted                                                               
that  C-130s had  to respond.   He  had experienced  working with                                                               
vessels that sank  and tragedies that occurred,  he told members,                                                               
emphasizing  the  importance of  the  U.S.  Coast Guard  in  that                                                               
regard.   In  addition  to search-and-rescue  missions, the  U.S.                                                               
Coast  Guard enforces  the 200-mile  limit  and stops  incursions                                                               
into the pollock  fishing grounds on the border.   The U.S. Coast                                                               
Guard  also  conducts  high-seas  driftnet patrols  in  order  to                                                               
protect Alaska's  salmon returns.   The large  area that  must be                                                               
patrolled and protected is incredible, he added.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELTY  reminded members  that the  Bering Sea  crab fisheries                                                               
are the most  dangerous in the nation.  The  U.S. Coast Guard has                                                               
responded  by keeping  helicopters  at Saint  Paul Island  during                                                               
some of  the crab [seasons]  around the Pribilof Islands,  and by                                                               
keeping helicopters on  the 378-foot cutters on  patrol, in order                                                               
to respond to events.  For  example, this past crab season, three                                                               
fishing vessels  lost their  pilothouse windows  on one  day; the                                                               
U.S.  Coast Guard  had to  respond  and assist  those vessels  in                                                               
order for them to get back to port and make repairs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KELTY noted  that Unalaska  has a  marine safety  detachment                                                               
that does  a great  job of doing  safety inspections  of vessels.                                                               
As  a  result, there  are  fewer  tragedies,  as well  as  better                                                               
equipment and training for the  fishing fleet.  Furthermore, [the                                                               
U.S.  Coast  Guard] responds  to  pollution  events such  as  the                                                               
incident  a  few years  ago  in  which  a Japanese  tramper  went                                                               
aground; the  U.S. Coast Guard  rescued the crew  and coordinated                                                               
the  cleanup  of 40,000  gallons  [of  fuel] that  inundated  the                                                               
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELTY  concluded by saying  he has seen, firsthand,  the work                                                               
that  they  do [in  spite  of]  terrible weather  conditions  out                                                               
there.  He  urged the committee to support the  U.S. Coast Guard,                                                               
which definitely  needs the  tools to  do the  job, not  just for                                                               
Alaska and the seafood industry, but also for the nation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1581                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT  asked whether there were  questions, then thanked                                                               
Mr. Kelty.  He returned the discussion to the committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT remarked that he  thinks [SJR 10] is a worthy                                                               
resolution,   and   that   under  the   circumstances   discussed                                                               
previously,  [members]  would look  for  the  sponsor to  provide                                                               
input in order to resolve the funding language.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1605                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT  made a  motion to move  SJR 10,  as amended,                                                               
out  of committee  with individual  recommendations and  the zero                                                               
fiscal  note.   There being  no  objection, HCS  SJR 10(MLV)  was                                                               
moved  out  of  the  House  Special  Committee  on  Military  and                                                               
Veterans' Affairs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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